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Passed up again?

2008 April 11
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by Guy

This tip comes to us from Matthew Robb …

I just spoke with Verizon Customer Relations in Ohio, who told me Verizon FIOS (fiber optic network) has no concrete plans to install FIOS in Frederick or Frederick County in the near future–and it may be “years” before we see it. My contact said (a) we definitely aren’t on Verizon’s “2009 & Beyond” list and (b) Frederick isn’t even being discussed as a near-term target.

As anyone knows today, fiber optics is the future of Internet and television, offering transmission speeds theoretically almost unlimited.

At a time when nearby Montomery County, Howard County and even Leesburg are enjoying the blazing speed, reliability, and low cost of Verizon FIOS–a service Consumer Reports recently rated #1 nationwide while Comcast placed second from dead last on its list–Frederick and Frederick County still aren’t even on Verizon’s radar. In short: We aren’t worth their bother–not yet. While Verizon Customer Service suggested we will eventually get FIOS, no one knows when this might happen.

Meanwhile, all those glorious FIOS television commercials keep airing in Frederick County.

Thanks for the info Matthew. It kind of burns me up that we (Frederick County) are being passed up for this kind of service even though it’s being implemented all around us. I wonder if there is some technical issue that prevents this or just a narrow view of the Frederick market?

~Guy~

48 Responses leave one →
  1. Matthew R permalink
    April 11, 2008

    Guy, another Verizon contact told me the major sticking point is logistics and money. Installing FIOS, especially in older neighborhoods, is seriously expensive.

    In Montgomery County and Leesburg, for example, Verizon has had to dig trenches from their street-based main FIOS lines all the way to the house of each and every single customer. That’s lots of money, manpower, and time.

    Apparently, Verizon is grabbing the low-hanging fruit now. Frederick County just isn’t yet worth their while. One Verizon official told me it could be 8 to 10 years before most of Frederick County gets FIOS, but said no one really knows.

    I’m wondering if there are ANY small, isolated neighborhood in Frederick County getting FIOS right now, even as an “experiment.” My understanding is no, but one never knows.

    • Brian permalink
      September 14, 2009

      On top of the cost to install FIOS, I was told when I inquired to a Verizon technician doing work in my moms house in Montgomery County that a big part of the reason Frederick has not received FIOS as of yet is the taxation Frederick County wants to put on FIOS. He said that they wanted to put such a heavy franchise tax on the service that it would be uncompetitive with Comcast and other service providers.

  2. Denman permalink
    April 11, 2008

    Montgomery county…..large urban areas with dense population…… 2006 there were 932,000 people.

    Frederick County, same census….223,000…. do the math and you will understand why (unfortunatly) we won’t be seeing FIOS any time soon.

  3. Matthew R permalink
    April 11, 2008

    Believe me, Denman, we all get the math.

    By the by:

    Leesburg: small “urban” area with a population 28,000.

  4. Lou permalink
    April 11, 2008

    This exclusion stems back to the old RBOC term, LATA (Local Access Transport Area), which defines the telephone companies juristiction. Each LATA has a differnt set of rules and regulations and funding. Frederick and Washington counties are in LATA 240 where, in the past, the density was so sparse that costs to implement new technologies was not cost effective. Look how long it took to get DSL from the phone company.

    Montgomery County, on the other hand, is in LATA 236 which includes all of Washington, DC and most of Northern Virginia (I think as far south as Fredericksburg. Its been a while). Therefore, the funding for the infrastructure upgrade to support FIOS has already been established and approved. Baltimore is in LATA 238 and also has funding for infrastructure upgrades. So, you cant really blame a small town in one of these LATAs for having FIOS. Its just the luck of the draw, unfortunately.

    Today, we see more and more residents in Frederick county, but the RBOCs still have the old mentality that the ROI will not be worth their while and therefore do not put up the funding for the infrastructure upgrades. It takes much more than people digging trenches and laying fiber to homes. You need the network equipment in their COs and POPs within Frederick County to support it. Fiber optic equipment and the ability to support multiple DWDM streams is expensive.

    RBOC = Regional Bell Operating Company
    ROI = Return on Investment
    CO = Central Office
    POP = Point of Presence
    DWDM = Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing

  5. FrederickFan permalink
    April 11, 2008

    Lou, thx. for a good explanation of the situation. Makes it (almost) understandable for me!

    Living in an isolated but newer subdivision in the Damascus area, I was surprised that our neighborhood turned out to be among the first in Montgomery Co. to get FIOs…first Internet, followed by TV service a few months later.

    But to everyone feeling “stuck” with Comcast and disappointed about Verizon and FIOs: No need to get too worked up. While I’m aware of the Consumer Reports evaluation, IMHO, you aren’t missing out on much, if anything, at this point.

    While we did leave Comcast Internet/TV for FIOs Internet/TV early on (and added local/long distance FIOs phone service), I can’t say we’ve saved any money. Moreover, we have found some disadvantages with FIOs TV service. FIOs offers fewer HD channels than Comcast. We’re lacking movie service now (an extra-cost upgrade with FIOs) that had been included within the comparable Comcast service tier. Also, comparing Comcast’s On Demand service vs. the FIOs equivalent, there were many more–and better quality–movies airing for free with Comcast than with FIOs. Finally, a minor point, but we found Comcast’s on-screen menu and navigation system less confusing and more user-friendly than that of FIOs. It took awhile, but we’re OK with the FIOs system now…though navigating through the menus, etc., still strikes us as more cumbersome than Comcast’s system.

    Oh, and lest I forget, once Verizon started the disruptive process of digging and laying fiber in our neighborhood and yard, we began experiencing chronic phone service problems….buzzing and static on the line, sound levels fading in an out. Repeated calls to Verizon didn’t solve the problem…some technicians blamed our wiring arrangement for the difficulties, while others pointed the finger at Comcast for its own digging and cable line activity. (More than once, when we were experiencing cable outages along with our virtually useless telephone service, we found ourselves caught in the crossfire of Comcast blaming Verizon and its digging as the cause of our problems, and Verizon just as insistently blaming Comcast!!!)

    One final note: When it comes to Reliability, I do agree with Consumer Reports: FIOs beats Comcast. (Though my real problems were with Comcast’s Internet–not TV–outages).

  6. mcpd20874 permalink
    April 19, 2008

    I’d settle for DSL if I could get it here in New Market!!! I hate paying comcast $60 a month for high speed internet.

  7. April 19, 2008

    Tell me about it! We live in rural Ijamsville and we have to pay for satellite internet…$79/month (no discount for cloudy days, ha!). I would love it if we could get cable tv or internet. We also have to have DirectTV for television. That’s two dishes on the roof.

  8. Matthew permalink
    April 20, 2008

    Liz, I don’t see rural folk getting major technology upgrades for many, many years. Given the low population density in Ijamsville and elsewhere, it’s just not worth the huge cost to lay fiber optic cable. I’d like to hear LOU weigh in on this, but satellite may be your only option for 10, 20, maybe 30 years.

    mcpd20874, DSL is 1980s technology. If you ain’t got it now, you won’t have it even by 2015.

  9. April 20, 2008

    Melisa e-mailed this comment so I thought I would share it here ..

    In response to your section about Verizon FIOS not installing in Frederick or Frederick County, I live in Frederick County and we have had FIOS for 2 years. We live on the border between Montgomery and Frederick County, but we are part of Frederick County. So they have brought it to some parts of Frederick County. I don’t know if the person who gave Matthew the information was misinformed or if they stopped bringing it in, or perhaps we got it because we are so close to Montgomery County. Just thought you might like to know.

    Melissa

  10. Matthew permalink
    April 21, 2008

    Not surprising. Being on the Montgomery County line is all-important, hence my intro above: “I’m wondering if there are ANY small, isolated neighborhood in Frederick County getting FIOS right now…”

    My guess–yes, just a guess–is the other 99.9 percent of Frederick County doesn’t have FIOS and won’t get it for quite some time.

  11. Chip permalink
    May 17, 2008

    I hear the next place Fios is going is Prince William County Virginia. Imagine that. Most of Prince William County was independent until Bell Atlantic merged with GTE.

  12. Brian permalink
    May 28, 2008

    I also live on the Montgomery/Frederick County line, but just inside Frederick County. I have had FIOS Internet since I moved in in July of 2006, but still don’t have TV service. I believe Verizon has to sign franchise agreements with individual counties to broadcast their TV service. I suspect that they don’t have enough FIOS cutomers in Frederick County to make the franchise agreement worthwhile.

  13. Matthew permalink
    May 28, 2008

    Dear Verizon, if you have no intention of bringing FIOS to Frederick County in the next 5 to 10 years, please stop sending me marketing materials touting how amazing your FIOS service is.

    Your FIOS television commercials broadcast via cable TV in Frederick County are quite enough, thank you.

  14. May 28, 2008

    Dear Matthew,

    And you are . . .? (/David Spade)

    Sincerely,
    Verizon

    (I was on the receiving end of a marketing gaffe when I worked at a boat insurance agency. Our parent company mailed gobs of quote request forms to folks in the Five Boroughs of New York. Too bad no one from marketing checked with us, or we could have told them that none of our companies would write policies within the Five Boroughs.)

  15. Jay permalink
    June 4, 2008

    I have spoken with two different Verizon customer service agents, one yesterday and one today. They both said that Frederick should be getting FIOS anytime now. But what Verizon’s definition of “anytime now” is hard to tell.

  16. June 4, 2008

    I was thinking of that this morning. FIOS should be here now!!

  17. Matthew permalink
    June 4, 2008

    No, not “anytime” now. I’ve talked to the regional planners. Nothing is in the works for many years, so they said.

  18. Jay permalink
    June 4, 2008

    Got to love the telecoms and cable companies. If there wasn’t confusion, there wouldn’t be a thought process at all.

  19. Becky permalink
    June 4, 2008

    My boyfriend works for a power company. He says everyday he gets asked by people just driving down the street or people coming out of their homes if they are installing FIOS. Even though he works for power company people get so excited thinking they are getting FIOS installed in their neighborhood. He says they get very upset when he tells them he has nothing to do with it.

  20. Frederick Fan permalink
    June 5, 2008

    To those Frederick folks who have been “Passed up again” by Verizon and FIOS–especially anyone “excited” at the prospect of getting FIOS–I offer my unsolicited opinion/observation that you may not find as much difference between cable (e.g. Comcast) and FIOS as you’d hope or expect to, given the hype.

    As a former Comcast customer who’s had FIOS for about a year now, I covered some aspects of my experience in an earlier post so I won’t re-visit that territory. While it seems that fiber optics offer more future potential, on the whole I honestly can’t say the move to FIOS offered a clear advantage over our service with Comcast. But, I realize everyone welcomes choice and wants the chance to evaluate for him/herself what’s better. I may be the lone voice in saying I’m underwhelmed by FIOS and would be interested in others’ experience.

  21. Matthew permalink
    June 5, 2008

    Consumer Reports disagrees with your anecdotal experience. CR based their ratings on statistically valid methodology based on customer satisfaction evaluations from tens of thousands of Verizon, Comcast, Cox, and other customers.

    Verizon FIOS ranked #1 nationwide–by a huge margin. Comcast ranked second to last. The difference wasn’t even close.

  22. Matthew permalink
    June 6, 2008

    published Jan 15, 2007

    YONKERS, N.Y., Jan. 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Consumers looking for
    Internet, television, and telephone service should consider Verizon FiOS. In
    Consumer Reports’ latest survey of several major telecom providers, featured
    in the February issue, Verizon FiOS, whose network is fiber-optic based,
    received superior scores for reliability and performance for its Internet,
    television, and telephone services.

    Because the availability of Verizon FiOS is as yet limited, many consumers
    should also consider other options for these services. The article also
    includes Ratings of services typically bundled from various providers based on
    reader scores.

    Consumers interested in services provided by a cable company may not have an
    option when choosing a provider because a majority of homes only have one
    cable company available in their area. According to CR’s survey, better cable
    companies include Cox, Bright House and Wow, which are fine alternatives to
    Verizon FiOS in areas that they are available and also offer Internet and
    telephone services.

    If television service is a priority, satellite service may be a fine option.
    DirecTV scored significantly higher than all the major cable companies and
    Dish Network, the other major provider of satellite service. It also offers
    hybrid bundles of its TV offerings and DSL and phone service from telephone
    providers Qwest and Verizon. DirecTV’s television service stacks up well
    against services offered from the best cable companies and requires getting a
    satellite dish and other equipment, typically free or at discount in exchange
    for a contract agreement.

    ALSO THIS: Comcast HD – Significantly Worse Than Verizon FIOS

    Sun, Mar 30, 2008 (No Ratings Yet)

    “bfdtv, a user on AVS Forum took the time to do a competitive analysis of the new re-compression Comcast is doing in order to fit more HD channels on the same network without chopping out a significant number of analog channels to compensate. The end result is that your once gloriously untouched HD channels are now going to look about 10-20% [worse] and there is nothing you can do about it, bfdtv explains:

    Until recently, most Comcast systems passed all HD as is from the content provider, without any added compression or quality reduction. In response to competitive pressures from DirecTV and Verizon FiOS, Comcast recently decided to sacrifice some quality to improve quantity. By early April, most Comcast systems will recompress and degrade their HD, much like DirecTV and Dish Network do on their MPEG-2 channels. This creates room for new HD channels without the need to eliminate a significant number of analog channels.

  23. Frederick Fan permalink
    June 9, 2008

    Matthew— I’m a CR subscriber and was well aware of both the Feb. 2008 report cited in the wire report you copied and CR’s March 2008 customer satisfaction survey on digital TV service. But I still stand by my “anecdotal” observations as stated here in my original post of April 11.

    I take no issue with the high level of satisfaction expressed by the 35,660 CR subscribers with Verizon FIOS, as evidenced in the survey results published in the March magazine, and acknowledge the advantages connected with fiber optic technology. (I’m no telecoms engineer, but it does appear that fiber optics technology will increasingly marginalize cable as time goes on.) My point here was not to challenge the satisfaction many have expressed with FIOS, but to caution against overly high expectations and to suggest that the choice to switch from Comcast or whatever is still one that should be carefully considered.

    Our experience may not be representative, but for those in my household, FIOS didn’t present quite the level of improvement we’d hoped for–or make the amount of difference we’d expected–in several respects compared to our previous service with Comcast. And it became apparent there were no cost advantages, either, despite the misleading figures presented by the young FIOS salespeople visiting our house. (Perhaps most of our expectations were unrealistic based on FIOS marketing claims.)

    To be frank, I suspect that we were mildly disappointed by our own failure to make the best possible “apples to apples” comparison between the service tier offerings and pricing we’d had with Comcast and the comparable offerings with Verizon FIOS. (Comparing offerings and costs can be quite confusing, but that’s no excuse.) We found that, for our viewing choices, Comcast offered more programming and more HD channels for less money than FIOS. We were similarly mildly disappointed in comparing video on demand (VOD) offerings–Comcast seemed to us the better value, especially in terms of free VOD movies.

    Also, the viewers in my household, as well as friends/relatives who have visited both before and after our switch to FIOS, honestly feel there is no discernable difference in picture quality across the range of channels–digital and non-digital, as well as HD. I’m not taking anything away from FIOS, but merely making the point that everyone may not be able to count on seeing a clear improvement in picture quality (which is pretty subjective anyway) compared with that from their previous provider (despite what the FIOS ads say).

    When it comes to customer service, I must admit to true surprise at the high ratings Verizon FIOS received in the “Support” (i.e., customer service) category of the CR survey. In today’s world of menu-driven, often frustrating, automated customer service systems, I can honestly say that I’ve never encountered a system worse than Verizon’s. (I found Comcast comparatively user- and customer friendly. At least real people are still accessible. Yes, really!) With its layer-upon-layer of convoluted menus presenting inappropriate choices that lead nowhere–and the near-impossibility of reaching a live person–Verizon is my hands-down winner in the customer abuse and frustration category. Recognizing that the CR survey respondents saw fit to give the full red circle to Verizon for “Best” customer “Support,” I can only conclude that I hail from a different universe and experience the world in a different way.

    Anywho…..While I don’t expect my voice and those of my family and friends to hold much weight, I nonetheless hope my experience with FIOS vs. Comcast as a local subscriber can be of benefit to someone weighing the switch to FIOS–especially someone whose expectations may be too high.

  24. Foxman permalink
    June 12, 2008

    I had FIOS when I lived in Mont Co, I now have Comcast internet. There is no comparison between the two services. Verizon customer service is better, and their service is better. I could easily download on-demand movies via the internet and peg my connection at 15megabits, with Comcast I’m paying for 16megabits, but I rarely see that speed, if I do it’s for a brief second, usually it’s in the 8-10 range. Comcast also doesn’t offer “unlimited” service – they claim to, but if you are in the top percent of bandwidth users, you get a nice call from them telling you that if you do it again, they’ll disconnect you. Of course, they won’t tell you what the bandwidth limit is, or give you any way to monitor it.
    http://comcastissue.blogspot.com/
    http://www.physorg.com/news94981460.html

    Verizon on the other hand, doesn’t care how much you download. These days, DirecTV utilizes your internet connection for On Demand, and HD on demand streams can be large.

    On a side note, when I lived in Mont co, I asked a Verizon tech when he thought we’d get fiber, he told me it would be a long, long time (years). I had the service 9 months later.

    I don’t think any of us will truly know what Vz is doing until we see the trucks rolling around our neighborhood. Here’s to hoping it happens soon.

  25. Brian permalink
    June 18, 2008

    I know someone who works for Verizon and they haven’t even begun negotiations with Frederick County to get a franchise license for FIOS TV serivce. She said it looks like it will be a while before we see the tv service in Frederick County.

  26. Danielle permalink
    June 25, 2008

    I live in Leesburg, I don’t have FiOS – I cannot get FiOS. It is not installed in my Leesburg community. It takes time for the installation. If Frederick isn’t in the plans though 2009 it is most likely in the 2010 2011 plans. While the rest of Leesburg has had FiOS for probably a year, I saw my first Verizon installation truck a couple month ago. I still don’t have FiOS available (although I have seen the fibers above ground). So it seems installation to 1 community in Leesburg takes months… Leesburg is closer to DC. I’m sure DC is a popular area to get teched out

  27. George permalink
    July 8, 2008

    Adelphia was OK, but COMCAST is the PITS.

    I check weekly for FIOS availability, and know people who now have FIOS and are delighted with the channel selection, plus the music stations. The speed is astounding. We keep praying FIOS will come to Frederick, while we can still enjoy it.

  28. The Dude permalink
    July 13, 2008

    Tearing up perfectly good asphalt is a pastime of city governments, but Frederick City officials have raised it to an art form.

    It goes like this: Road crews block traffic during the morning rush, as they lay down a fresh, smooth coat of asphalt. Hours later during the evening rush, traffic is routed along a circuitous detour so that a different road crew–this one equipped with jackhammers and dump trucks–can begin tearing up the new pavement. Sometimes, these work crews are actually installing something under the streets, such as communication lines for the city’s cutting-edge telegraph or Morse Code system. Other times, they just tear up the streets because it’s an annual ritual and basically because it’s fun to mess with people.

  29. Rick permalink
    August 7, 2008

    Great….now even effing DC is getting FIOS:

    The D.C. Office of Cable Television says it has reached an agreement in principle that would allow Verizon to provide cable television service to the District.

    The deal still faces legal scrutiny from the Office of the Attorney General and must by approved by the D.C. Council. Ward 3 Councilwoman Mary Cheh says the deployment of Verizon’s FiOS television service will mean more choices for customers, and possibly better prices. Service could begin in some areas early next year.

    Verizon will compete with Comcast and a few small cable television providers in the District.

  30. steve permalink
    August 15, 2008

    It is frustrating for me since I know the fibre is under the street in front of my house. I saw the guys running a huge bundle of fibre down our street and asked who they were working for. It was Verizon’s fibre – just not for me. I live in the city of Frederick.

  31. Brian R permalink
    September 19, 2008

    As a Frederick County resident, I too would love to have FIOS as an option, and it’s unfortunate that it may be many years before it becomes available. In the meantime, though, Verizon is now providing a faster DSL option. I recently responded to a Verizon mailing and upgraded my DSL speed from 3.0 mbps to 7.1 mpbs. It costs $5 extra/month, but is well worth it in my opinion. I have been testing my connection speed and have usually been getting about 6.7 mpbs download (still 768 kbps upload). I’m not sure if this offer is available county-wide, or only in certain areas, but here is a link:

    http://www.verizon.com/superspeed43

    A nice thing was that no change in equipment or service call was required – they simply “turned on” the extra speed.

  32. Matthew permalink
    September 19, 2008

    Brian R, I agree DSL is an attractive option in Frederick, but it’s also a 1980s technology. DSL is a stopgap until FIOS arrives. Plus, you have to live within 3 miles of the central hub. If you’re 3.1 miles or more away, tough luck. You can’t join the DSL party.

    At least we can thank Comcast cable for being so darned reliable and cost competitive!

  33. Steve permalink
    September 22, 2008

    Right, I hear lots of complaints about Comcast, but I’ve had their High-speed service for years with no issues and 6 down/2 up always. DSL is not an option for me.

  34. Jorge permalink
    November 13, 2008

    I finally spoke with a friend of mine that is higher up in Verizon and he said the issue isn’t money or logistics, it is Comcast. Apparently Verizon has applied three times to Frederick county for permission to run the lines. But since Comcast ‘donates’ so much money to the county Verizon has been denied each time.

    The best way for us to have a choice is to contact the county and demand they allow us the option rather than requiring Comcast for high speed. I finally got Verizon DSL in my area but it isn’t close to the speeds of the FIOS lines that I had when I lived in Montgomery county.

    Comcast is losing upwards of 100,000 subscribers a month because of their terrible service and customer service. If there is any justice in this world they will go under which will force Frederick county to allow for FIOS installations.

  35. Allen permalink
    December 26, 2008

    I know there are many logistics surrounding what type of internet/tv/phone services we can have based upon equipment and such, but I’m sort of puzzled why my neighborhood can only get Comcast internet as well. We supposedly have fiber optic lines in our neighborhood (Urbana), thousands of homes in the community, and I am also one who suffers daily through the misfortunes of Comcast services. My father lives in a very small community in far western Maryland and he gladly gave up Comcast for Verizon DSL and Direct TV. I would settle with that if I had it available since his level of service is far superior to anything I have from Comcast although I would really look forward to having FIOS. A number of my friends have it in Montgomery County and they say it is exceptional compared to the alternatives. At least they have options.

  36. Jerry permalink
    January 24, 2009

    I just got my new bill from Comcast jacking up my bill because special promotions have expired. I received these specials because on the switch over from Adelphia they had to have a service man replace the remote 3x and the cable box twice. Comcast’s prices are outrageous, trying to talk to anyone almost impossible and their website a disaster. I just may up my Netflix which provides qreat service …. there’s nothing on cable these days except for commercials.

  37. Mr. Magoo permalink
    January 24, 2009

    DSL is not available in ALL of Spring Ridge, after years of Verizon refusing to offer it. Of course, it’s nothing like FIOS but offers an alternative to Comcast.

    Check to see if DSL is now available in your neighborhood. In the meantime, Frederick County should be wired up for FIOS within 2-3 centuries.

  38. Bill permalink
    January 25, 2009

    We switched to DirecTV from Comcast, and now use Verizon DSL. The DirecTV with HD and DVR service (with HBO) is $90 per month and the DSL is $23. Very reliable and the HD is amazing.

  39. August 10, 2009

    Just a little backround. I live in both Mont. County and in a rural area in DE in Sussex county. I ha e Fios in both places. I would be very surprised that such a small town in DE has Fios and that Frederick would not get it anytime soon. I am about to move to Middletown and buy a home there and just checked and they are not Fios ready. That makes me a little nervous because the neighborhood is only 3 years old. You would think if try were going to start somewhere it would be a place like that. What some of you are saying about information you are getting from Fios o can’t say I agree with. From previous conversations I’ve had with Fios cust service they don’t know a lot about what they are talking about. Before the last NHL season I had heard they were going to bring the NHL home ice package on board so I kept calling to find out when. The answer I got many more time the. Once was it wasn’t going to happen. Finally I saw an add on tv talking about Fios and NHL home ice. I of course picked up the phone immediatly and aske the representative about it. This gentleman says “oh yeah we’ve been in talks and planning on getting it for a while.” that of course made me happy and I signed up right away. The moral of the story is we have no idea when it’ll be in Frederick and neither do their representatives. I know if it’s not there when I move there I will definitely be getting Direct TV and dsl Internet because I loath comcast. I will start a drive for Fios when I get there and not stop until it is complete. I have had all the carriers and I find fios to defitely be the top dog in the show. Look out for my petition because it’ll be comming to a Federick town near you!!

  40. August 25, 2009

    I just moved here from Minnesota. I must say that it makes my blood boil that fios is not in this area. Comcast is afraid of competition, so they buy up the competition. I would love to see fios in Frederick. and if they add NASA TV before comcast does, I will switch to them the very day they arrive here. I have created a petition to bring fios to our area.

  41. FrederickFan permalink
    September 15, 2009

    After reading through the comments/theories on why Verizon hasn’t run FIOS into Frederick County, I agree that the delay is mystifying. You have to assume that there’s some business reason hanging up Verizon’s move from Montgomery County into a fairly large, fairly affluent neighboring customer base in Frederick. (Surely the Frederick gov’t isn’t at fault in some way?)

    It’s hard to interpret who is likely to get FIOS service based on factors like size and age of neighborhood. For example, I live in northern Montgomery County in a 15-year-old, 200-house subdivision off to itself within the Agricultural Reserve, yet we were among the first to get FIOS service in the area.

  42. Gwen S. permalink
    March 9, 2010

    Well, I live in Frederick County, VA. Yes, there is a Frederick County Virginia. And we are having the same problem. I was just told by a neighbor that the reason why Frederick County, Va will not let FIOS in is because they have a deal with Comcast that there will be only one cable provider in the county. I thought that they could not do that because of fair market competition. But someone is getting something.

    My friend’s son has FIOS and I know of others that have it too. I’ve read someone’s post on here that the quality of FIOS is just about the same. I beg the different. I have Comcast and I can tell you that FIOS quality is so much better. My HD on Comcast doesn’t look no better than regular TV on Comcast and it’s not my TV because my TV is a brand new Sony. Very good TV set and that’s what my son has also. I can’t believe the picture quality that he has. The same individual reported that Comcast has more HD. NOT. He has more HD than I do and I have all the channel line up and he’s paying cheaper than I am. With Comcast the HD freezes all the time. Not once and a while but all the time so I have to turn the channel to the regular TV. All I have is Comcast TV and my bill is $158 per month. He has TV, internet, phone and cell and his bill is $186 per month because he said he upgraded his internet services.

    Now the strangest thing is that in my neighborhood all the homes are wired for FIOS phone, internet and TV. And FIOS internet and phone is available so I don’t understand why we cannot have FIOS TV. I think it’s time for Comcast to have a little competition. As for customer service I called and asked for a HD/DVR box for another TV that I am getting. The guy on the phone told me that they are out of those boxes. WHAT!!!! You should have more of these boxes because this is what TVs are equipped for these days. Also, the person on the other end didn’t particular wanted to help me. He was in a hurry to get me off the phone. Bad customer service. The girl on the TV, of course , is an actress. They are not that friendly. So then he asked me to call back in a couple of weeks because they have some on order. Well, I waited one day called back and talked to a different person and was told that I can just go pick up one at one of their locations. Wow, that order came in pretty fast.

    I live in an all adult community and we are a separate entity because the post office recognizes our area with a separate name. We are not on the map. So I don’t understand why our little city can’t get FIOS. Oh and the one last myth. I had a special deal with my INTERNET SERVICE for two years and when the two years was up it went up $10. That’s it. A lot of my neighbors had Comcast TV and after the special was up it went up twice as much as what they were paying. Now being in an adult community those that are retired could not afford that. And when they called they received rude service so they hung up and went with satellite. It was really funny because you saw the truck come in and one after the other homes satellite was installed. I still work so I could afford the extra charge but it’s really ridiculous.

  43. Roger permalink
    June 8, 2010

    Frederick County grants a monopoly to Comcast. There are other parts of the country that allow cable companies to compete. My older son owned a condominium in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida which allows competing cable companies. Each year, the condo association negotiated with the cable companies to offer the best packages and lowest prices to the building. Frederick County has never allowed more than one cable company. I own a business and have a lot of competition. We have to offer competitive prices and superior service to keep customers. If you need a technician to come to your home for internet problems, you must be willing to wait up to seven days. This is unacceptable. Competition might provide lower cost, better choices, and better service. It would take a large number of unhappy people to lobby our County Commissioners to allow competition.

  44. Matthew permalink
    August 26, 2010

    Any updates on FIOS coming to Frederick County?

  45. Brian permalink
    September 10, 2010

    As far as I’ve heard Verizon has stopped their buildout for Fios and will now only be focusing on the markets where they already offer service or where they already have agreements with the county or city. I wouldn’t be surprised if Frederick county never sees Fios. I’ve heard from numerous people (and read on Frederick News Post) that the county has a franchise agreement with Comcast, so the only competition we are going to see for a long time is from DirecTV, Dish Network, and all the wireless, mobile, (and DSL providers that are allowed to use Verizon’s existing lines) for internet service.

    I currently pay $200.00 a month for a digital package with HBO, one DVR, an HD box, High-speed internet, and digital voice. When I lived in Florida, I had the same three services through Bright House Networks and paid them $110.00 a month. It is absolutely disgusting what has been allowed to happen here in Maryland. Comcast is a monopoly in Frederick county, and you can blame our county and city government for that, and for the fact we may have missed our chance to get Fios. I honestly can’t wait until I can move out of this area.

  46. Lex permalink
    August 2, 2011

    What about the villages of urbana? That place is huge! No FIOS there either?

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